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My car audio capacitor has lost its charge and will not hold a charge for more than about an hour. Please help

OK so my car audio system has been working fine for months. I have installed a kenwood cd player, 1000 watt kenwood amp, 3 10" kicker subs and a 1.2 farad tsunami capacitor. and all of a sudden yesterday my capacitor just stops working. i look on the read out and its barely putting out .1 of a volt. ive tryed a few things but the voltage keeps dropping. i dont know if i should buy a new one or if there is a way to fix this or recharge it correctly? please help

Posted 700 days ago

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kurtismcleod
I would NOT listen to Samantha if I were you. A big 3 upgrade is only going to ensure a clean connection and best possible stable current to your amplifier. It is necessary when upgrading to a large system, and is always recommended as common sense to anyone who wants clean electrical. A big 3 upgrade will NOT stop your headlights from dimming if your system is still pulling more amps than your alternator can push out. The whole point of a capacitor is to give your battery buffer, so each time your subwoofers hit those REALLY low tones you aren't pulling huge amperage from the battery at any one time, you're pulling the amperage from the cap, which will then slowly recharge from the battery. If you've got the correct capacitance for your system (Meaning you've researched exactly what MINIMUM farad rating you need to keep your system with stable current at ALL TIMES). When a capacitor is fully charged, and charged properly, it will take the big hits from your amp, and when those hits pull from the cap, your system will slowly recharge the cap while cleanly drawing from the battery. You say you had 1.2F cap, with a 1000w amp and 3 kicker subs. If you had that 1000w amp connected to three subwoofers wired in bridged parallel, you could very well have been pulling every ounce of juice your amp was willing to give, and since it is a 1000w amp, the 1.2F cap was BARELY enough to keep up. The general rule of thumb, albeit not perfectly accurate, is 1F per 1000w + 40% for buffer. You should have had a 1.4, or more realistically, a 1.5 F cap for your system. As for your cap dying, cap's all contain electryolytic gel encased in a foil tube. If this electrolytic gel were to get too hot, or too cold, you may end up damaging the gel, and over time, the entire capactior. I live in Canada, we had a -50C night, and my old Cap froze solid, It never held a charge after that.

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Samantha
Get rid of the capacitor in general. Capacitors are just another thing your alternator has to charge. They actually take more time (5 times longer) to REcharge than to DIScharge no matter how many farads you have. So, when it constantly is trying to keep up and can't, that's when alternators fail. Ditch the cap. Do the Big3 Upgrade (power -charge- wire from alt. straight to batt., ground wire from batt. straight to vehicle frame, and ground wire from frame to engine block) all in 4g or bigger wire. Use the appropriate-sized lugs and scrap away paint and/or rust. Make sure all connections are tight and this will have the effect in which caps are sold for (dimming headlights, voltage drops), but don't work. Any properly designed amplifier will have all the necessary caps it needs, built in already. It is a marketing scam. When MTX started recommending StreetWires caps I lost a little respect for them- even though they put out great products IMO. Sell it and use that money to buy big wire:) Why Caps Don't Work: http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthread.php?t=17970 Good Luck!

700 days ago

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Bersh85
maybe try getting a new one, 2 farad or sumthing..this site has them cheap http://www.teptronics.com/accessories-capacitors.html

700 days ago

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Emma81
The cap should be wired in parallel to the battery and amp. Also if the cap has any sort of damage (ie, dings or dents) this will cause failure. It may be just the read out is bad. One way to test is to unhook it from the battery and see how long it takes to discharge with a 12 volt light. It should light up the bulb for at least a good 30 seconds. _______________________ While the article that Javin M provides held true at one time, there are a few thinngs that time has altered. This article was written some time ago and changes have occurred in the manufacturing of capacitors. In the article an ESR of .017 was given, the problem is that caps made today have an ESR of 0.0016 or less which is a far cry from the days of old. What does this mean? It means the calculations and information now change quite substantially and can no longer be held as true. A cap is only good so far as the audio system isn't trying to pull too much from the electrical system. I know a cap can be beneficial as I'm running one and I measured a definite change in my electrical systems response curve to big bass hits with an oscilloscope, however, this won't be the case for ALL vehicles.

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